There is an ebayer called watchshop1 based in Frankfurt who sells Stovard Juergenson watches in quite large numbers . I believe he speaks English. If you contacted him via ebay, I think he can probably help you. The auctions regularly go for well under list price. By the way, just enter Stovard in ebay . The Juergenson has an umlaut which screws up the search on English language pcs.